13 December 2004

SEC DEF

This story seems to keep on going like that rabbitt with the batteries and beating the drum so in response to a number of questions via email, I guess that it is time I post my two cents worth. The Secretary of Defense, as he has done in the past, holds a townhall meeting with soldiers in a combat zone and says, “what are your questions?” No pre-screening, no stipulations, no kidding? That in itself is amazing and speaks volumes for the character of old Rummy. I’ve heard it said too many times this past week in the MSM that he was blind sided by the soldier’s question regarding the armor for vehicles. C’mon, give the man some credit. He might not have expected that particular question, but certainly he knew that soldiers gripe and given the opportunity to gripe to the head of the DoD, some will take it. I don’t think he was caught too off guard. The fact is, Secretary Rumsfeld asked for questions, got them, and now has to answer them and I suspect the issue of armor for vehicles is aggressively being addressed as I type this. Hmmm, sounds like a townhall meeting.

The boss sums it up nicely:

“The concerns expressed are being addressed and that is - we expect our troops to have the best possible equipment,” Bush said. “If I were a soldier overseas wanting to defend my country, I’d want to ask the secretary of defense the same question. And that is, ‘Are we getting the best we can get us?’ And they deserve the best.”
-Bush

Over the weekend, the lovely and talented and downright sexy Mrs. Hook remarked to me after watching a piece about this on one of the MSM channels, “that soldier is in a lot of shit.” I looked at her and thought for a moment and replied, “you know, I don’t think so.” Not too much shit anyway. If I were the kid’s first sergeant my blood pressure would’ve went through the roof as I stood there listening to one of my soldiers ask such a quesiton of the Sec Def. Given time to cool off and think things through, there really isn’t much I could hold against the soldier but I probably would have a discussion about being professional and the proper phrasing of questions to senior leaders, but barring that, he was passed the microphone in an open forum.

What would really bother me, and I suspect the rest of the command team, is if this kid never voiced his concern to his chain of command and the first I was hearing of it was in a townhall meeting with the Sed Def. Of course, the proper command climate has to be set for such a discussion to occur within the unit and the command team is responsible for setting that climate, not the soldiers. Again, if I were the kid’s first sergeant, I would hope that the issue of scrounging for metal to armor our vehicles would’ve been something addressed up front and honestly with the soldiers and that they knew I was voicing their concerns up the chain but in the meantime we were going to do every gottdamned conceivable thing, to include dumpster diving for scrap metal, to make sure each and every one of our ugly mugs comes back home alive, mission complete.

As for the reporter who “planted” the question, the point is moot. Once again the MSM shows true colors and I’m really not surprised. I doubt he’ll get a pullitzer out of this though.

There is a lot more on the subject worthy of your review:

A Line in the Sand
Froggy Ruminations
2 Slick’s Forum

I encourage you to go read them and then ask yourself, what exactly do you want in a Sec Def? Sgt Hook out.


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Flopping Aces linked with Where's The Armor
2Slick's Forum linked with 'Tis the Season


8 Comments »
  1. Sgt Major Hook - My first thought lines up not too differently from your comment. I have the feeling that the soldier has probably voiced concerns before. But if he had not done so, and then brought it up in such a forum, I would certainly expect that he would feel some heat from his fellow soldiers as well as the NCO’s and officers in his command. Questions are good - and shouldn’t wait for the SecDef to come to town!

    Comment by Barb — 13 December 2004 @ 1934


  2. Right on the money, Hook. The phrasing of the question just struck me. If it had been “Why is it taking so long for the armored trucks to get here?”- I wouldn’t even have flinched. To me, that’s just like “Why don’t we get paid more?” and “Why do we get deployed every 18 freaking months?”. Those are the types of questions you expect at these things, and I don’t see any need to screen such a question with the chain. But to say “why am I having to ‘dumpster-dive’ in order to get adequate protection”- that’s a little much.

    It’s sort of like the difference between saying “Why aren’t we allowed to drink alcohol in Iraq?” versus “Why does my platoon leader have to smuggle booze to Iraq in his duffle bag?” I mean, if you’re going to ask the “dramatic” version of the question- fine- but take it up with the chain first- give them a chance to defend what’s going on before “dropping the drama” on the big boss.

    That begs the question- Did he talk with his PSG and verify that they really were going to “depend on that scrap metal” when they headed up north? I don’t think so- mostly because the journalist indicated that some people in the kid’s chain were pissed. Perhaps if he had given them a chance to address it first- his PSG/1SG/LT would have told him that the scrap metal was just going to be kept on hand for “just in case” purposes which would have discredited the phrasology of the question- or maybe they would have said “yep- we’re going into the sh!t with nothing but scrap metal to protect our sorry asses- say your prayers, kid!” in which case the question would have been justified in the way it was asked.

    I don’t know if he had these discussions with his chain, but if he didn’t- he sort of screwed them. And the fact that he conspired with a weasily journalist makes it all the more damning. Not that anyone would get in trouble- it’s just embarrassing to everyone in his command. I don’t think anything really bad will happen to him- but I do think he’ll get some “remedial training” in the “how to be a team player” department.

    Comment by 2Slick — 13 December 2004 @ 1956


  3. Greyhawk over at Mudville Gazette has a couple of posts that address the problems of responding rapidly to changing requirements in wartime. I have a lot of sympathy for Rummy because I think he has done a remarkable job as SECDEF. He deserves a lot more credit than he has been getting for dragging the DoD into the 21st century, kicking and squealing. I wouldn’t be surprised to see his name compared to people like Clauswitz, sometime down the road.

    I do hate to see the troops questioning him like this because of the political firestorm that it causes, not because the questions shouldn’t be asked. Of course, his superiors should have already been asking these questions, and pushing the answers back down hill, and they probably have. Some guys don’t listen.

    Comment by John F. — 13 December 2004 @ 2212


  4. My issue with the question of the armor is that officials have been saying all through the war that they were up-armoring the vehicles as quickly as possible, then right after this question makes big news, we find out that the manufacturer can increase production from 400 to 500 HMMVV’s a month. I guess it wasn’t being done as fast as possible after all. Also, Americans are always looking for ways to support the troops, I can’t believe that any group of factory workers wouldn’t agree to put in a little extra time to produce more vehicles that would help keep our troops safer. But none of this will happen unless the government asks for it to be done.

    Comment by Anthony — 13 December 2004 @ 2312


  5. ‘Tis the Season
    I want to start by directing you to some quality takes on the armor flap:

    Hook weighs in here.

    Trackback by 2Slick's Forum — 14 December 2004 @ 1907


  6. Where’s The Armor
    this jackass (Chattanooga Times Free Press reporter Edward Lee Pitts) has completely ruined any chance of better trust between the MSM and the DoD. Was it a valid question, of course. But do you really this reporter did it because he was afraid for t…

    Trackback by Flopping Aces — 14 December 2004 @ 1931


  7. This is just a Google test :)

    Comment by My_name — 23 October 2005 @ 1903


  8. info and resources on eyeglasses.

    Comment by Ian Henman — 23 October 2005 @ 2213


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